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Episode 1: Dogfooding

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avatarIn this episode, Joel and Chris introduce Not a Real Job, teach you about dogfooding, vanity metrics, and bringing social media into the real world.

Talking Points

  • New York City
  • Nova Scotia
  • Dogfooding
  • “That was very MBMBaM of me…”
  • What is a community manager?
  • Nordstrom labels ‘top Pinned items’ in store to help customers see Pinterest favourites
  • Vanity Metrics
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